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Reply #460 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 11:41am
 
India has threatened to pull out of the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and set up its on climate change body because it "cannot rely" on the group headed by its own Nobel Prize-winning scientist Dr R K Pachauri.

The Indian government's move is a snub to both the IPCC and Dr Pachauri as he battles to defend his reputation following the revelation that his most recent climate change report included false claims that most of the Himalayan glaciers would melt away by 2035. Scientists believe it could take more than 300 years for the glaciers to disappear.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7157590/India-to-pull...


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Reply #461 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 12:00pm
 
Hmm, one of the world's most populous nations with a exponentially growing level of pollution is going to set up their own "independent" research on the subject of climate change eh? Yeah, it's the "other guys" who are in on a conspiracy!
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Reply #462 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 2:43pm
 
cryztalwing wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 11:41am:
Scientists believe it could take more than 300 years for the glaciers to disappear

THEY'RE STILL GONNA FUCKING DISAPPEAR, AREN'T THEY? Whether it happens in three years or three
hundred years, it's still something that's not supposed to be happening, that's going to happen and cause problems to millions of people. A longer time until they're gone just gives us more time to try and stop it.
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Reply #463 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 7:23pm
 
Amai Liang wrote on Feb 6th, 2010 at 2:43pm:
THEY'RE STILL GONNA FUCKING DISAPPEAR, AREN'T THEY? Whether it happens in three years or three
hundred years, it's still something that's not supposed to be happening, that's going to happen and cause problems to millions of people. A longer time until they're gone just gives us more time to try and stop it.


This seems to be the logical endpoint that the conspiracy theorists don't seem able to make.

"Wait, it's happening slower than they said (and a reasonable explanation has been given for the mistake!), ergo it isn't happening at all!"
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Reply #464 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 5:06am
 
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On Thursday, the Utah House Natural Resources Committee passed a resolution expressing the legislature’s belief that “climate alarmists’ carbon dioxide-related global warming hypothesis is unable to account for the current downturn in global temperatures.” The resolution, which now goes to the full House for a vote, urges the EPA to not regulate pollution blamed for climate change “until a full and independent investigation of the climate data conspiracy and global warming science can be substantiated.” When some members of the committee questioned the “conspiracy” wording as “pretty inflammatory,” Rep. Mike Noel (R) claimed that climate change is “in fact a conspiracy to limit population not only in this country but across the globe”:

But Noel defended the “conspiracy” wording, pointing to an out-of-print textbook, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment , written in the 1970s by biologist Paul Ehrlich, Ehrlich’s wife, Anne, and physicist John Holdren about the potential hazards of unchecked population.

The Kanab Republican, referring to Holdren as the Obama administration’s “energy czar,” read from passages of the 1,000-plus-page tome about population-control alternatives that included abortion and forced sterilization. He did not share the authors’ conclusion: that voluntary population-limiting methods are “a far better choice.”

“Now, if you can’t see a connection [of a conspiracy] to that,” the legislator said, “you’re absolutely blind to what is going on. This is absolutely — in my mind, this is in fact a conspiracy to limit population not only in this country but across the globe.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/06/utah-climate-conspiracy/
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Reply #465 - Feb 7th, 2010 at 11:13am
 
Well, of COURSE Utah is against population control. That would mean less wives for everyone!
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Reply #467 - Feb 13th, 2010 at 10:01pm
 
Cyclone49 wrote on Jan 30th, 2010 at 12:02pm:
Well, there's always suicide.

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Reply #468 - Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:25am
 
Dodgemaster Tim wrote on Feb 6th, 2010 at 7:23pm:
This seems to be the logical endpoint that the conspiracy theorists don't seem able to make.

"Wait, it's happening slower than they said (and a reasonable explanation has been given for the mistake!), ergo it isn't happening at all!"



They just all think the rapture will happen before we have to worry about it. You may think I am being sarcastic. I assure you that I am not.
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Reply #469 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 4:08am
 
cryztalwing wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 10:01pm:
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Hehe thats great Wink
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Reply #470 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 9:45am
 
Squeezarooni wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:25am:
They just all think the rapture will happen before we have to worry about it. You may think I am being sarcastic. I assure you that I am not.


I know, which is deeply depressing.  They're not only expecting it, they're looking forward to it!

Reminds me of an older official line by the Church that part of the paradise of being in Heaven is that you would get to watch people in hell suffering eternal torment as part of your "reward".
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Reply #471 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 10:54am
 
Dodgemaster Tim wrote on Feb 15th, 2010 at 9:45am:
I know, which is deeply depressing.  They're not only expecting it, they're looking forward to it!

Reminds me of an older official line by the Church that part of the paradise of being in Heaven is that you would get to watch people in hell suffering eternal torment as part of your "reward".


This is why I don't do religion. Shocked
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Reply #472 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 2:26pm
 
Dodgemaster Tim wrote on Feb 15th, 2010 at 9:45am:
I know, which is deeply depressing.  They're not only expecting it, they're looking forward to it!

Reminds me of an older official line by the Church that part of the paradise of being in Heaven is that you would get to watch people in hell suffering eternal torment as part of your "reward".


Whaaat? Shocked I'm Catholic but I've never heard that.
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Reply #473 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 2:58pm
 
It's probably something the Roman Catholic church had for a while but retconned some time in the eighties or nineties. I know I've never heard any Protestant denominations saying that...
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Reply #474 - Feb 16th, 2010 at 3:59am
 
Phil Jones Admits Manipulating Data There has been no global warming since 1995, Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' Al Gore likes to use has gone missing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-...

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Reply #475 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 2:30pm
 
Amai Liang wrote on Feb 15th, 2010 at 2:26pm:
Whaaat? Shocked I'm Catholic but I've never heard that.


I believe it's quite old, as in several hundred years, but you'd be surprised what stays on the books.  Galileo wasn't officially un ex-communicated until a few years ago, from memory.
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Reply #476 - Feb 20th, 2010 at 12:44am
 
Now that I think about, I think the Church may have gotten that idea from one of Jesus' parables, in which a rich man goes to hell and a beggar goes to paradise (technically not heaven, but more like a rest-stop towards heaven for those who followed the Law or found favor with God before Jesus' death. It's complicated...) and it mentions the rich man being able to see the beggar being comforted by Abraham. i guess the Roman Catholics decided that it was a two-way window, and somehow worked that into their vision of 'paradise'... before realizing that something like that was bound to have people offended or disgusted.
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Reply #477 - Feb 21st, 2010 at 11:24am
 
BonUs wrote on Feb 20th, 2010 at 12:44am:
(technically not heaven, but more like a rest-stop towards heaven for those who followed the Law or found favor with God before Jesus' death. It's complicated...)


Yeah, wasn't the old interpretation that everybody stayed dead until Judgment Day and existed in a kind of quasi-heaven or quasi-hell, and come Judgment Day, all the dead would rise from the grave and be judged and then go to "real" heaven and "real" hell?
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Reply #478 - Feb 21st, 2010 at 2:04pm
 
That's still the standard interpretation for how it was before Christ, but now they're sent directly to heaven or hell.
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Reply #479 - Feb 21st, 2010 at 2:47pm
 
So.... Judgment Day has already been?
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